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14 august 2010

Obama forsvarer Ground Zero-moské

I nat under sin årlige ramadanleflen forsvarede Hussein Obama ikke overraskende opførelsen af en stormoské ved Ground Zero. For de 2.995 ofres efterladte må tanken være uudholdelig.

Good evening. Welcome to the White House.

To you, to Muslim Americans across our country, and to more than one billion Muslims around the world, I extend my best wishes on this holy month. Ramadan Kareem. I want to welcome members of the diplomatic corps; members of my administration; and Members of Congress, including Rush Holt, John Conyers, and Andre Carson, who is one of two Muslim American Members of Congress, along with Keith Ellison.

Here at the White House, we have a tradition of hosting iftars that goes back several years, just as we host Christmas parties, seders, and Diwali celebrations. These events celebrate the role of faith in the lives of the American people. They remind us of the basic truth that we are all children of God, and we all draw strength and a sense of purpose from our beliefs.

These events are also an affirmation of who we are as Americans. Our Founders understood that the best way to honor the place of faith in the lives of our people was to protect their freedom to practice religion. In the Virginia Act for Establishing Religion Freedom, Thomas Jefferson wrote that “all men shall be free to profess, and by argument to maintain, their opinions in matters of religion.” The First Amendment of our Constitution established the freedom of religion as the law of the land. And that right has been upheld ever since.

Indeed, over the course of our history, religion has flourished within our borders precisely because Americans have had the right to worship as they choose – including the right to believe in no religion at all. And it is a testament to the wisdom of our Founders that America remains deeply religious – a nation where the ability of peoples of different faiths to coexist peacefully and with mutual respect for one another stands in contrast to the religious conflict that persists around the globe.

That is not to say that religion is without controversy. Recently, attention has been focused on the construction of mosques in certain communities – particularly in New York. Now, we must all recognize and respect the sensitivities surrounding the development of lower Manhattan. The 9/11 attacks were a deeply traumatic event for our country. The pain and suffering experienced by those who lost loved ones is unimaginable. So I understand the emotions that this issue engenders. Ground Zero is, indeed, hallowed ground.

But let me be clear: as a citizen, and as President, I believe that Muslims have the same right to practice their religion as anyone else in this country. That includes the right to build a place of worship and a community center on private property in lower Manhattan, in accordance with local laws and ordinances. This is America, and our commitment to religious freedom must be unshakeable. The principle that people of all faiths are welcome in this country, and will not be treated differently by their government, is essential to who we are. The writ of our Founders must endure.

We must never forget those who we lost so tragically on 9/11, and we must always honor those who have led our response to that attack – from the firefighters who charged up smoke-filled staircases, to our troops who are serving in Afghanistan today. And let us always remember who we are fighting against, and what we are fighting for. Our enemies respect no freedom of religion. Al Qaeda’s cause is not Islam – it is a gross distortion of Islam. These are not religious leaders – these are terrorists who murder innocent men, women and children. In fact, al Qaeda has killed more Muslims than people of any other religion – and that list of victims includes innocent Muslims who were killed on 9/11.

That is who we are fighting against. And the reason that we will win this fight is not simply the strength of our arms – it is the strength of our values. The democracy that we uphold. The freedoms that we cherish. The laws that we apply without regard to race or religion; wealth or status. Our capacity to show not merely tolerance, but respect to those who are different from us – a way of life that stands in stark contrast to the nihilism of those who attacked us on that September morning, and who continue to plot against us today.

In my inaugural address, I said that our patchwork heritage is a strength, not a weakness. We are a nation of Christians and Muslims, Jews and Hindus — and non-believers. We are shaped by every language and culture, drawn from every end of this Earth. That diversity can bring difficult debates. Indeed, past eras have seen controversies about the construction of synagogues or Catholic churches. But time and again, the American people have demonstrated that we can work through these issues, stay true to our core values, and emerge stronger for it. So it must be – and will be – today.

Tonight, we are reminded that Ramadan is a celebration of a faith known for great diversity. And Ramadan is a reminder that Islam has always been part of America. The first Muslim ambassador to the United States, from Tunisia, was hosted by President Jefferson, who arranged a sunset dinner for his guest because it was Ramadan—making it the first known iftar at the White House, more than 200 years ago.

Like so many other immigrants, generations of Muslims came here to forge their future. They became farmers and merchants, worked in mills and factories, and helped lay the railroads. They helped build America. They founded the first Islamic center in New York City in the 1890s. They built America’s first mosque on the prairie of North Dakota. And perhaps the oldest surviving mosque in America—still in use today—is in Cedar Rapids, Iowa.

Today, our nation is strengthened by millions of Muslim Americans. They excel in every walk of life. Muslim American communities—including mosques in all fifty states—also serve their neighbors. Muslim Americans protect our communities as police, firefighters and first responders. Muslim American clerics have spoken out against terror and extremism, reaffirming that Islam teaches that one must save human life, not take it. And Muslim Americans serve with honor in our military. At next week’s iftar at the Pentagon, tribute will be paid to three soldiers who gave their lives in Iraq and now rest among the heroes of Arlington National Cemetery.

These Muslim Americans died for the security that we depend upon, and the freedoms that we cherish. They are part of an unbroken line of Americans that stretches back to our Founding; Americans of all faiths who have served and sacrificed to extend the promise of America to new generations, and to ensure that what is exceptional about America is protected – our commitment to stay true to our core values, and our ability to perfect our union.

For in the end, we remain “one nation, under God, indivisible.” And we can only achieve “liberty and justice for all” if we live by that one rule at the heart of every religion, including Islam—that we do unto others as we would have them do unto us.

Thank you all for being here, and I wish you a blessed Ramadan. And with that, let’s eat!

Læs mere her!

Over my sons dead body:

18 kommentarer »

  1. Helt ufatteligt – katastrofal mangel på sund dømmekraft. Sikken dog en idiot!


    Kommentar af Phønix — 14 august 2010 @ 07:22

  2. Nåh…løgnhalsen og muslimen hussein, et par ord fra Bob.


    Kommentar af Fritz — 14 august 2010 @ 09:18

  3. Nu er der ingen tvivl længere.
    Obama er skabsmuslim og dermed komplet uegnet som USA’s præsident.



    Kommentar af falkeøje — 14 august 2010 @ 11:14

  4. To billeder er brændt ind på min nethinde, det første er pave Johannes Poul der kysser koranen, det andet er Obama, der dybt bukkende kysser den saudiske konges hånd. Kys min bare…


    Kommentar af Slyrgraff — 14 august 2010 @ 11:57

  5. @ 3. falkeøje

    Helt enig.
    Det er åbenbart ikke noget problem at få tilladelse til at bygge en 13 etagers moske nogle få hundrede meter fra Ground Zero, men at få lov til at genopføre St. Nicholas Greek Orthodox Church som lå for foden af WTC og blev pulveriseret da tårnene faldt, kan efter 9 år stadig ikke lade sig gøre.


    Men der er jo selvfølgelig også forskel på fisk….


    Kommentar af Middle-Earth — 14 august 2010 @ 12:57

  6. “To billeder er brændt ind på min nethinde, det første er pave Johannes Poul der kysser koranen, det andet er Obama, der dybt bukkende kysser den saudiske konges hånd. Kys min bare”

    Ja det er utroligt. Den mest mest reaktionære forbryder på de kanter.

    Men det viser kun, at det ikke brænder på endnu i relation til Samuel Huntington. Fronterne er ikke trukket hårdt op endnu, og det varer nok endnu 2o år før civilisationerne for alvor støder sammen.

    Men Obama er virkelig ved at træde i karakter. Han har ingen chancer for at blive genvalgt. Når mere end 3000 mænd og kvinder bliver myrdet af islamiske terrorister, så bygger man ikke en moskee på stedet. det gør man bare ikke. Det er helt galt med den sunde fornuft.

    Det er faktisk uhyre interessant rent psykologisk, at folk flipper helt ud i absurde beslutninger for at være gode eller tolerante.

    Tumperne forstår ikke hvad der foregår omkring dem, og det er dog bemærkelsesværdigt med vor skabsmuslim, som sidder på et par millioner atom brændsstof.

    Det er som Stephen Hawkings siger: Forlad jorden før det er for sent. Jeg er enig, det kan kun gå galt.

    Læs fx Politikens og Informations debatter, så falder man i svime over den uvidenhed og enfoldighed der præger den politiske forståelse. Men jeg forstå det godt. Oplysningstiden er forbi, og den er forbi,fordi information ikke er af interesse, der er højere mål. Det hele er et spørgsmål om psykologi.

    Og når Marxismen udviklede de menneskemishandlere som prægede den internationale scene i næsten 70 år, så var det fordi Marx ingen dybliggende psykologisk forståelse havde. Derfor gik det galt med ideologierne.

    Nu er det kulturrelativisterne der dyrker deres ideologi omkring indvandringen, og så vil det også gå galt her.


    Kommentar af Phønix — 14 august 2010 @ 13:08

  7. Der var ingen smil men kun en sær ny og hård stædighed i Obamas ansigt.

    Der er ikke en her, som ikke kan pille hans argumentatione fra hinanden.


    Kommentar af Mette — 14 august 2010 @ 16:11

  8. Obamas tale i Kairo, hvor han skamroste islam, hans tale sidste år ved Ramadan og nu igen i år ved Ramadan er udtryk for samme taktik der benyttes når en løgn skal forvandles til ‘sandhed.’ Direkte hentet fra Saul Alinsky’s Rules For Radicals.

    Har islam så været berigende for Amerika siden landets grundlæggelse?
    Den første krigserklæring den unge nation udstedte var mod Barbarernes muslimske pirater i Middelhavet. Læs flere afsløringer af løgnen om islams positive indflydelse her:

    USA har virkelig fået en præsident der er en sand katastrofe for de der elsker friheden.


    Kommentar af jørgen olsen — 14 august 2010 @ 16:51

    • Jeps, jeg kan bekræfte, at Jefferson som andre amerikanere var forbandet over, at den unge nationations fredelige handelsskibe ustandselig var udsat for pirateri i Middelhavet. Dette optog Jefferson ganske meget, da han var ambassadør i Paris, som han forlod kort efter stormen på Bastillen i 1789. Jeg har endda læst et brev om det til den danske konge, hvor der blev lagt op til samarbejde om problemet, der jo også var et stort dansk problem gennem flere hundrede år.

      Det var først da Frankrig erobrede Algier i midten af 1800-tallet, at det muslimske pirateri ebbede ud efter at have været en konstant pest og plage for fredelige handelsfartøjer. En af de kendte personer, der i tidens løb blev taget til fange under en sørejse var Miguel de Cervantes, der fra 1575 sad fem år i fængsel og var slave hos maurerne i Algier. Efter flere forgæves flugtforsøg blev han løskøbt af familien, og da han siden skrev romanen om Don Quixote var det med flere hint til muslimer. Der var på det tidspunkt mange efterkommere af maurere i Spanien, og det skyldtes ene og alene, at de var blevet tvunget til at konvertere til kristendommen, for hvis de ikke ville det, blev de jaget ud af landet.


      Kommentar af Mette — 14 august 2010 @ 17:32

  9. “And with that, let’s eat!”

    Let’s eat – er det ikke altafslørende?


    Kommentar af Hodja — 14 august 2010 @ 17:46

  10. Det dumme svin!

    Har fra dag 1. ikke kunnet døje den mand og hans arrogante fjæs.

    Amerikanerne må have stemt med emotionerne for faktisk anede de ikke ret meget om selve manden.

    Havde de vidst de havde udsigt til at få en narcissistisk skabsmuslim som præsident gad jeg nok vide om de havde stemt på ham. Jeg tror det ikke.

    Håber de stemmer en AMERIKANER ind næste gang – og håber samtidig at denne ækle mand ikke får skabt alt for mange problemer der bliver svære at håndtere for den kommende præsident.


    Kommentar af Vivi Andersen — 14 august 2010 @ 18:31

  11. USA’s krig mod Barbaresk staterne

    Obamas tale bliver ved med at dukke op i mine tanker. Hvilken ækel, slesk mand. Her er lidt mere om Jefferson hentet i Slate Magazine online, N.B. at der ikke er noget nyt under solen i de muhammedanske ytringer:

    “Thousands of vessels were taken, and more than a million Europeans and Americans sold into slavery. The fledgling United States of America was in an especially difficult position, having forfeited the protection of the British Royal Navy.

    Under this pressure, Congress gave assent to the Treaty of Tripoli, negotiated by Jefferson’s friend Joel Barlow, which stated roundly that “the government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion, as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion or tranquility of Musselmen.” This has often been taken as a secular affirmation, which it probably was, but the difficulty for secularists is that it also attempted to buy off the Muslim pirates by the payment of tribute.

    That this might not be so easy was discovered by Jefferson and John Adams when they went to call on Tripoli’s envoy to London, Ambassador Sidi Haji Abdrahaman. They asked him by what right he extorted money and took slaves in this way. As Jefferson later reported to Secretary of State John Jay, and to the Congress:

    The ambassador answered us that [the right] was founded on the Laws of the Prophet, that it was written in their Koran, that all nations who should not have answered their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as prisoners, and that every Mussulman who should be slain in battle was sure to go to Paradise.

    Medieval as it is, this has a modern ring to it. Abdrahaman did not fail to add that a commission paid directly to Tripoli—and another paid to himself—would secure some temporary lenience. I believe on the evidence that it was at this moment that Jefferson decided to make war on the Muslim states of North Africa as soon as the opportunity presented itself.

    And, even if I am wrong, we can be sure that the dispatch of the U.S. Navy and Marine Corps to the Barbary shore was the first and most important act of his presidency. It took several years of bombardment before the practice of kidnap and piracy and slavery was put down, but put down it was, Quranic justification or not.”



    Kommentar af Mette — 14 august 2010 @ 21:26

  12. Ahem – nu er I jo så rørende enige, så man næsten ikke tør spørge:

    Hvad har egentlig New Yorks muslimer gjort, som gør at de ikke skulle have ret til en moske?

    Nogen skriver, at moskeen skal ligge lige oveni Ground Zero. Det tror jeg ikke på uden dokumentation. Angiv venligst cirka-afstand. Jeg gætter 3-700 meter – men det er naturligvis et gæt.


    Kommentar af GNU — 15 august 2010 @ 00:30

  13. Hvad med 50 km derfra. Er der ikke plads nok i New York?

    Ground Zero er et helligt sted-en plads der har varet udsat for muslimsk mord og terror. Er det vanskeligt at forstaa?

    Hvad med en statue af Hitler foran Auschwitz eller en mindeplads for Dwight D.Eisenhower i Hiroshima.

    En moskee paa ground Zero – eller indenfor 5 km – er usmageligt og et direkte slag i ansigtet paa ofrenes familie.


    Kommentar af Jens Hansen — 15 august 2010 @ 13:02

  14. Eller måske en statue af G. W. Bush i Kabul og Bagdad? 😉

    Ang. forståelse: Jeg forstår så udmærket, at jorden er hellig for jer. Det jeg ikke helt kan forstå, er at det lige er det stykke jord (og en eller anden omkreds omkring det), der er helligt. For mig er jorden hellig, og dermed færdig. Andet forstår jeg desværre ikke. At så en masse mennesker er omkommet et vist sted ved en sindssyg terroraktion er naturligvis forfærdeligt og jeg kan da også godt indse at der kræves lidt finfølelse og at deres pårørende sørger. Men som Obama påpeger var der jo faktisk også muslimer blandt ofrene.

    I øvrigt kan I da nu glæde jer over, at både folkene bag byggeprojektet og “den onde, onde muslim B. Hussein Obama” synes at trække lidt i land. Men det bliver vel aldrig nok for jer, for menigheden omfatter tilsyneladende mest folk fra “Lower Manhattan”, og de får nok lidt svært ved at glæde sig så meget over et fint gudshus 50 km væk!

    Men er der stemning for de 50 km, eller er det bare Hr. Hansens forslag?


    Kommentar af GNU — 15 august 2010 @ 14:21

    • At kalde dig for gnu, er vel nærmest en fornærmelse mod gnuen. Sindssyge muslimer smadre tusindvis af menneskeliv, og gør de pårørendes liv til et helvede, og så vil man bygge en skide moske lige i nærheden. Syge tosser. Men lad os tales ved når man må bygge kirker og synagoger i de islamiske taber samfund, eller bare ha en bibel med (hvis man er så idiotisk at rejse dertil).


      Kommentar af Fritz — 15 august 2010 @ 16:13

  15. @ GNU
    “For mig er jorden hellig, og dermed færdig.”

    Jaja, du er et bedre menneske end alle andre, det ved vi efterhånden godt.
    Og hvem ved, måske burde vi virkelig ikke gå på kompromis med vores fine principper? Men uanset hvor meget ret Obama måske har i det, han siger, så viser han ingenlunde respekt for de dødes efterladte ved at sige, det han siger.
    Det er jo ikke hans søde små piger, man stadig kan finde knoglerester af ved Ground Zero, vel? Han burde have holdt sin mund.

    Er det muslimernes ret at bygge en moské? Måske. Men det er godt nok usmageligt af dem at fortsætte, nu hvor de kan se hvor megen sorg, de skaber for de efterladte, og den opførsel må man sige er den stik modsatte opførsel af den opførsel, Obama hævder, muslimer har.

    “– a nation where the ability of peoples of different faiths to coexist peacefully and with mutual respect for one another stands in contrast to the religious conflict that persists around the globe.”

    De pårørende vil nok fx. her være lidt uenige med præsidenten, tror du ikke GNU?

    Obama bør ikke plabre løs om islams menneskereddende livssyn, samtidig med at han beder amerikanerne slappe lidt af med hensyn til en moské, der bygges klods op ad Ground Zero, stedet hvor mange amerikanere netop blev ofre for islams påvirkning af mennesker.
    Den manglende erkendelse fra præsidentens side af, at islam absolut ikke altid er lig med fred og harmoni, må da være utroligt provokerende for de efterladte.


    Kommentar af Egtvedpigen — 15 august 2010 @ 15:57

  16. Obama!!!!,(a.k.a. U-bum-ass) er den mest uduelige præsedent i mands minde.


    Kommentar af mogens — 15 august 2010 @ 22:21

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